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Piccolo (Buu Saga) Vs Dabura
Topic Started: Mar 10 2015, 09:42 PM (1,946 Views)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Piccolo never expresses confidence in winning. He doesn't say anything at all. Vegeta's the only one to say that he can win the tournament without going SSJ and neither No. 18 nor Piccolo question or remark that he's wrong on that account.
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Mar 11 2015, 02:24 PM
Piccolo never expresses confidence in winning. He doesn't say anything at all. Vegeta's the only one to say that he can win the tournament without going SSJ and neither No. 18 nor Piccolo question or remark that he's wrong on that account.
To be fair, Piccolo wasn't there to say anything against him. And later on Vegeta seems more dead-set on fighting Goku than winning the tournament.
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Piccolo is well above the base saiyans at this point.

On topic: Piccolo gets crushed, as much i hate admitting it Akira's forgottten warrior has nothing to support otherwise.
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Picollo vs Pui Pui ?
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Piccolo is most likely as powerful as he was during the Cell Saga here. Although it's possible that he (like Goku and Vegeta) managed to increase his power level but he more than likely (like the others) only maintained or slightly increased his (given he doesn't get a real chance to fight, there's no way to really get a gauge on how strong he is).

I do think he's much higher than the Base Saiyans but there's no way he wins this. At Dabura's absolute weakest, he's around Cell Games SSJ Goku.
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Mar 11 2015, 09:21 PM
Picollo vs Pui Pui ?
Piccolo one shots PuiPui, unless you think base Vegeta buu saga stomps piccolo.
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Mar 10 2015, 09:47 PM
Dabra is comparable to 100% Cell Games Goku.

Interesting how Goku didn't just say that then, instead of making a completely unnecessary and deceptive comparison to Cell.

"Dabra's about as strong as I was seven years ago right before I died, maybe a bit stronger at most"

Anyway. Dabra wins obviously.
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Mar 12 2015, 10:30 PM
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Mar 10 2015, 09:47 PM
Dabra is comparable to 100% Cell Games Goku.

Interesting how Goku didn't just say that then, instead of making a completely unnecessary and deceptive comparison to Cell.

"Dabra's about as strong as I was seven years ago right before I died, maybe a bit stronger at most"

Anyway. Dabra wins obviously.
Suppressed Cell is also comparable to Goku. It's pretty much the same thing.

If Dabra were comparable to full power Cell, Goku would have realized that Vegeta had achieved SSJ2 long before he actually demonstrated it. Vegeta's confidence in defeating Dabra initially, as well as his confidence in beating Dabra after Gohan wasn't able to would have given that away.
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Mar 12 2015, 10:30 PM
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Mar 10 2015, 09:47 PM
Dabra is comparable to 100% Cell Games Goku.

Interesting how Goku didn't just say that then, instead of making a completely unnecessary and deceptive comparison to Cell.

"Dabra's about as strong as I was seven years ago right before I died, maybe a bit stronger at most"

Anyway. Dabra wins obviously.
Suppressed Cell is also comparable to Goku. It's pretty much the same thing.

If Dabra were comparable to full power Cell, Goku would have realized that Vegeta had achieved SSJ2 long before he actually demonstrated it. Vegeta's confidence in defeating Dabra initially, as well as his confidence in beating Dabra after Gohan wasn't able to would have given that away.
Goku didn't make any comparison to a suppressed Cell. He said "As strong as Cell" PERIOD. If he meant a suppressed Cell, he would have just said so. Goku's not retarded. "As strong as Cell" does not mean the same thing as "As strong as a suppressed Cell." Those two terms are not interchangeable .

Goku would have realized or at least expected that Vegeta had ssj2 from the moment he heard Vegeta wanting to challenge Gohan at the tournament. His surprise at Vegeta later was just about Vegeta's power, which Goku didn't expect to equal his own.
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Or he was not expecting his SSJ2 power to match his own.
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Goku didn't make any comparison to a suppressed Cell. He said "As strong as Cell" PERIOD. If he meant a suppressed Cell, he would have just said so. Goku's not retarded. "As strong as Cell" does not mean the same thing as "As strong as a suppressed Cell." Those two terms are not interchangeable .
The fact that he isn't as strong as Zenkai Cell makes this argument invalid.
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Goku would have realized or at least expected that Vegeta had ssj2 from the moment he heard Vegeta wanting to challenge Gohan at the tournament. His surprise at Vegeta later was just about Vegeta's power, which Goku didn't expect to equal his own.
Gohan didn't know either of them had achieved Super Saiyan 2, plus Goku would have realized that Vegeta's Super Saiyan form is equal to his own. No reason to be surprised that Super Saiyan 2 is as well.
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Bad bad bad day for Piccolo.
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